tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post1464729677224891946..comments2024-03-28T17:53:43.541-04:00Comments on DarwinCatholic: Be Careful Where Your Loyalties Lead YouDarwinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08572976822786862149noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-7021299884447396732016-10-15T11:41:53.451-04:002016-10-15T11:41:53.451-04:00Most of us do not simply vote in detachment, we jo...<i>Most of us do not simply vote in detachment, we join the team and then feel the need to defend everything "our" guy does. This isn't a bad instinct. Loyalty is a good thing. But it is important to think twice about who we give our loyalty to. What has saddened me in this election in particular is to see Trump's awful candidacy drawing people to defend things they never would have excused a year ago. <br /><br />At the end of the day, I care a lot less about who people vote for than I do about the ways in which their support of a candidate leads them to excuse actions and attitudes they never would have defended before. Those changes in moral standards may last long past the election and will effect their own lives far more.</i><br /><br />This is a great point. I have noticed the same thing and find it distressing.Ian M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-64982586606106373992016-10-15T11:07:11.964-04:002016-10-15T11:07:11.964-04:00I think you have put your finger on it perfectly -...I think you have put your finger on it perfectly - once we have decided which "team" to support, there is a human tendency to find reasons why all aspects of that team are justified, or better than the other. I have been very troubled by exactly the phenomenon you describe - people excusing or justifying actions or statements they would have whole-heartedly condemned in any other context. Son Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11863309198903282129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-51093098645421096542016-10-14T00:03:37.539-04:002016-10-14T00:03:37.539-04:00Yes, keep your eye firmly on the tactic - good poi...Yes, keep your eye firmly on the tactic - good point.mandamumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-80976955009578308202016-10-13T16:42:03.993-04:002016-10-13T16:42:03.993-04:00Me, I can make a tactical decision to vote for som...Me, I can make a tactical decision to vote for someone and yet not feel any need to defend him - I only need to defend the tactic. That said, this election is making me sick to my stomach. I am truly undecided, and appalled. Joseph Moorehttps://yardsaleofthemind.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-56668382576317085822016-10-12T16:21:53.415-04:002016-10-12T16:21:53.415-04:00I think this comes down to the need to smooth out ...I think this comes down to the need to smooth out the cognitive dissonance of "I support candidate X" and "candidate X does Y bad thing." Either my support has to go, or Y must not be that bad after all....<br /><br />Also, they find you like someone more whom you help, but the positive feeling *follows* the assistance, as if your brain and emotions are making up a reason to explain your helping the person. Perhaps the same happens when the "helping" is just visible support.mandamumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13456664219186606851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-46464002969653049012016-10-12T10:47:48.255-04:002016-10-12T10:47:48.255-04:00My father was telling me he was thinking of voting...My father was telling me he was thinking of voting for Hilary. He said he knew she was for abortion but that she hadn't mentioned it much. What was left unsaid was whatever greater evil he thought Trump might be for. He also did not appear to understand the concept of not voting. Nor the idea of incentives- i.e. Trump's incentives being significantly different from the criminal political class. We can expect him to act in his interests, which means there's a slight chance of less horrible. <br /><br />But I don't know that people are changing their moral standards. They are slowly beginning to realize what is important in a fight. We are headed towards civil war internally, and the regime is doing some impressively stupid things externally. In order to mount any sort of defense, I need to be reasonably sure I won't get stabbed in the back. We've got a long way to go before I do feel that way. I do hope we get there before it is too late. <br /><br />Much of what happens in this country goes on behind the scenes. This election is entertainment, a distraction- unless a President Trump really can fire federal employees by the thousands. Or indict a lot of people based on what the FBI knows, what can be found on C-Span, etc... How much can one guy do? No, we need a resistance movement, and that goes back to trust. Not trust of Trump, but of each other. <br />Augusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08758314961163692341noreply@blogger.com