tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post115843425547631407..comments2024-03-14T11:50:14.761-04:00Comments on DarwinCatholic: Uncivilized ConductDarwinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08572976822786862149noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1158774878312526322006-09-20T13:54:00.000-04:002006-09-20T13:54:00.000-04:00I saw the same delicious irony in another place - ...I saw the same delicious irony in another place - P.J. O'Rourke quoting the Communist government of Nicaragua (quoting from memory here):<BR/><BR/>"Reporters from <I>La Prensa</I> said we did not allow freedom of the press. That was a lie and we could not let them print it."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1158468203026491372006-09-17T00:43:00.000-04:002006-09-17T00:43:00.000-04:00Turns out the address is too long so I'll put it i...Turns out the address is too long so I'll put it in line by line:<BR/>http://rambutan.blogs.friendster.com/<BR/>poetry_and_reflections/<BR/>2006/09/more_from_algha.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1158467587442091762006-09-17T00:33:00.000-04:002006-09-17T00:33:00.000-04:00As for condemning someone for what he is rather th...As for condemning someone for what he is rather than for what he says, as per the Pope's off-hand reference to the militarist expansion of Islam, not to mention the threat of the irrational as going against God, and discrediting religion in general some of the Muslim scholars from the Middle Ages who worked with Greek thought would agree:<BR/><BR/>http://rambutan.blogs.friendster.com/poetry_and_reflections/2006/09/more_from_algha.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1158465413873314542006-09-16T23:56:00.000-04:002006-09-16T23:56:00.000-04:00Good discussion, Darwin. There are reasons the Is...Good discussion, Darwin. <BR/><BR/>There are reasons the Islamic world had these reactions, and are likely to continue.<BR/><BR/>There is a culture of "saving face" there which is enormously powerful. Being publicly criticized is perceived as a deliberate attack; a deliberate "blackening of the face", to use the Arab term. Even if the criticism is accurate. There is a huge strain of paranoia in Islam today, a pattern of blaming their humiliation for the last century on outside malice rather than the simple fact that they are clinging to cultural norms that preclude them developing strong prosperous societies that can compete with the West. And finally, hostility to outsiders is generally orchestrated by those with something to gain from it--politicians and mullahs who can advance their agendas and expand their power bases. So I'm afraid that while Benedict XVI's attempts to make peace with Islam are very well done they are probaly going to contend with more of the same.<BR/><BR/>LogEyed RomanLogEyed Romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13889437392169618869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1158451181327744832006-09-16T19:59:00.000-04:002006-09-16T19:59:00.000-04:00Islam is the religion of peace, and we will kill a...Islam is the religion of peace, and we will kill anyone who doesn't agree with that. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1158443879807930582006-09-16T17:57:00.000-04:002006-09-16T17:57:00.000-04:00The sad thing about all the over-reaction is that ...The sad thing about all the over-reaction is that the basic thrust of the speech is aimed at achieving better dialogue. Unfortunately media focus on a few quotes has ignored this. Benedict spends most of the speech teasing out the way Western theologians use "reason" and he explores how this hampers dialogue with those of other beliefs.Kiwi Nomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13351034705766073667noreply@blogger.com