tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post115937831391478012..comments2024-03-14T11:50:14.761-04:00Comments on DarwinCatholic: Notes on the reading of PoohDarwinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08572976822786862149noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159883764427395182006-10-03T09:56:00.000-04:002006-10-03T09:56:00.000-04:00I grew up with "The World of Pooh" and loved it. T...I grew up with "The World of Pooh" and loved it. There are colored illustrations, but they are all Shepards and (I think) colored by Shepard.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately I was never able to get my kids to read the book for themselves, though they did love having it read to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159543656010409972006-09-29T11:27:00.000-04:002006-09-29T11:27:00.000-04:00Shepard colorized his own drawings for later editi...Shepard colorized his own drawings for later editions.Pro Ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03814831624547392519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159538865080067402006-09-29T10:07:00.001-04:002006-09-29T10:07:00.001-04:00A number of the big Pooh collections do indeed hav...A number of the big Pooh collections do indeed have tinted versions of the original line drawings. I suppose if I were a true, true purist I would get more worked up about this, but I guess I make the excuse that it's not like tinting drawings and engravings is a new thing by any stretch.<BR/><BR/>One solution (and a cheap one!) is of course to look for an old set. Copies from 30-40 years ago will definately only have the black and white drawings.<BR/><BR/>Amazon also has <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/World-Pooh-Complete-Winnie-Original/dp/0525444475/sr=1-5/qid=1159538102/ref=sr_1_5/102-3608385-7852107?ie=UTF8&s=books" REL="nofollow">this edition (of just the Pooh stories, not the poems and such) which claims to be a "Pooh original edition"</A> and the one drawing from the inside that they show (Pooh being dragged downstairs: bump, bump, bump) is indeed black and white. I don't know if all the illustrations are, however.<BR/><BR/>Though I'd be annoyed if they swapped Shepard out entirely, I guess I don't mind the colorized versions so long as the text is left alone. What I won't stand for is the Disney re-tellings of Pooh and additional stories.Darwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08572976822786862149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159538859309078232006-09-29T10:07:00.000-04:002006-09-29T10:07:00.000-04:00My little ones love the Disney cartoons, but they ...My little ones love the Disney cartoons, but they best love having the books read to them. Dorian they are still in print, and you can find them at any major bookstore, and most minor ones.<BR/><BR/>My 3-year-old daughter, who adores the cartoons, best loves to be read the first chapter of the first book at bedtime. "The bees!" she'll demand. The two of them can almost recite that chapter from memory.Sir Galen of Bristolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249011691189216258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159501582584648672006-09-28T23:46:00.000-04:002006-09-28T23:46:00.000-04:00Actually, I'm looking forward to the time that bot...Actually, I'm looking forward to the time that both Milne's and Shepard's works will be in the public domain. As Milne died in 1956, at least according to British law (which extends copyright to 50 years after the death of an author), I suppose that copyright has expired on that one. Shepard, however, died in 1976, and so, alas, we have another 20 years before that will be in the public domain.<BR/><BR/>But wait! If someone (other than Disney) manages to get the pictorial rights of Shepard, we could probably get someone to do a proper animated version of Pooh. I'm thinking line drawings in the style of Murikami/Wolf, but faithful to Shepard's images. <BR/><BR/>And in googling up Shepard, it appears that he donated most of his drawings to the Victoria and Albert Museum, and the rest to Surrey University. I dare say that somebody could suggest to Her Royal Highness that the BBC, the Museum and the University get together to collaborate in a proper animated version. Let's see the Mouse try to stop the Crown!Bernard Brandthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00159541603126407072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159498103654553472006-09-28T22:48:00.000-04:002006-09-28T22:48:00.000-04:00That set (The Complete Tales and Poems) is what I ...That set (The Complete Tales and Poems) is what I was eyeing, but I wasn't sure if it was the real deal or not. It looked a little colorized. I think they've done that with the original Thomas the Tank Engine stories (I know you're no fan of Thomas, but we have a one-track mind around here GET IT? TRACK??? HA HA HA HA HA). You have to TRACK (snicker) down one of the older books to see the original illustrations - the reprints have "new and improved" brighter colors, etc.Dorian Speedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09437677114445411990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159486919989918242006-09-28T19:41:00.000-04:002006-09-28T19:41:00.000-04:00And if you don't like a monolithic Pooh edition, t...And if you don't like a monolithic Pooh edition, there's always <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Pooh-Library-original-set-Original/dp/0525444513/sr=1-4/qid=1159486454/ref=sr_1_4/102-3608385-7852107?ie=UTF8&s=books" REL="nofollow">the boxed set.</A><BR/><BR/>(No, we don't get kickbacks from Amazon, but we should!)Darwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08572976822786862149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159486776434932102006-09-28T19:39:00.000-04:002006-09-28T19:39:00.000-04:00We have The Complete Tales & Poems, too - I highly...We have <EM>The Complete Tales & Poems</EM>, too - I highly recommend it.<BR/><BR/>Also, do yourself a favor and purchase <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Wind-Willows-75th-Anniversary/dp/0684179571/ref=sr_11_1/104-3191268-7903146?ie=UTF8" REL="nofollow">this</A>.Pro Ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03814831624547392519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159485336998129062006-09-28T19:15:00.000-04:002006-09-28T19:15:00.000-04:00Let's try that link again:The Complete Tales & Poe...Let's try that link again:<BR/><A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Tales-Poems-Winnie-Pooh/dp/0525467262/sr=8-1/qid=1159484441/ref=sr_1_1/102-9764707-1836105?ie=UTF8&s=books" REL="nofollow">The Complete Tales & Poems of Winnie-the-Pooh</A>mrsdarwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03446744635277205867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159485082830360802006-09-28T19:11:00.000-04:002006-09-28T19:11:00.000-04:00Here's the one we bought: The Complete Tales & Poe...Here's the one we bought: <A HTTP://WWW.AMAZON.COM/COMPLETE-TALES-POEMS-WINNIE-POOH/DP/0525467262/SR=8-1/QID=1159484441/REF=SR_1_1/102-9764707-1836105?IE=UTF8&S=BOOKS HREF: HREF="" REL="nofollow">The Complete Tales & Poems of Winnie-the-Pooh</A>. It's big and a nip unwieldy -- sometimes I wish we had the individual collections -- but it's a great resource.<BR/><BR/><I>Or maybe I'll go to Wal-Mart and buy a Disney Friends Pooh storytime fun book with battery-operated buttons, just to be ornery.</I><BR/><BR/>Now you know you'd only be hurting yourself, especially after hearing those buttons pushed for the umpteenth time.mrsdarwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03446744635277205867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159483075437164782006-09-28T18:37:00.000-04:002006-09-28T18:37:00.000-04:00You know, just when I was becoming resigned to the...You know, just when I was becoming resigned to the Omnipresence of Disney Magic, you have to go and post this.<BR/><BR/>I was actually looking on Amazon yesterday for a good "REAL" Pooh treasury type-book, since I didn't read the stories as a child. Do you have any recommendations? I figure I'll have to go the used-book route to find an authentic Pooh collection.<BR/><BR/>Or maybe I'll go to Wal-Mart and buy a Disney Friends Pooh storytime fun book with battery-operated buttons, just to be ornery.Dorian Speedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09437677114445411990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159478191218096742006-09-28T17:16:00.000-04:002006-09-28T17:16:00.000-04:00I believe Disney bought all the rights to the Pooh...I believe Disney bought all the rights to the Pooh material, including artwork, about ten years ago. So I assume any exhibition of the artwork would have to be licensed by The Mouse.The Opinionated Homeschoolerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07998448933609444830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159476157017047192006-09-28T16:42:00.000-04:002006-09-28T16:42:00.000-04:00The Pooh recording that Darwin grew up with was pu...The Pooh recording that Darwin grew up with was put out by Caedmon and was done by Carol Channing. Actually, I think Kanga's accent had only the very mildest touch of the South to it. Her intonation was Motherly rather than regional.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159458370356690552006-09-28T11:46:00.000-04:002006-09-28T11:46:00.000-04:00Disney completely bastardized the Pooh franchise. ...Disney completely bastardized the Pooh franchise. I'll never forgive them for that.<BR/><BR/>The illustrations by E.H. Shepard (what is known today as "Classic Pooh") are so much better than the Disney animators' "improvements" that it isn't even funny.<BR/><BR/>Disney also bastardized Anderson family favorite <EM>The Wind in the Willows</EM> with its horrid little tale "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride". Again, Shepard's illustrations of Willows is head and shoulders above the Disney studio caricatures.<BR/><BR/>When we were in England last September, we were privileged to visit the <EM>Wind in the Willows</EM> permanent exhibit at The Museum of River and Rowing in Henley-on-Thames. The entire exhibit is dedicated to the Willows artwork of E.H. Shepard. I wonder if there is a similar museum exhibit somewhere showcasing Shepard's Pooh artwork.Pro Ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03814831624547392519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1159453834774197012006-09-28T10:30:00.000-04:002006-09-28T10:30:00.000-04:00I somehow couldn't get through Pooh (the literary ...I somehow couldn't get through Pooh (the literary one) as a child, but read the entire thing to Big Girl when she was about 4 or so. It's time to pull that big book down and read the whole thing again - this time to both girls. <BR/><BR/>I cried - to the point that I had to stop reading to get myself under control again - when Christopher Robin went to school. And an English friend of mine made it worse when she told me that it wasn't just school, but BOARDING SCHOOL, that Christopher was going to. So he'd really and truly not be with Pooh any more. How very sad.<BR/><BR/>I'll pull that big book down today, and I'll have to alternate it with my National Review Bedtime Treasury book. (Which, if you don't have, you can now order with Volume 2 - just out - for a really good price. The stories are awesome, the chapters, short, and the kids absolutely love the characters. "Please, one more chapter," seems to be standard when we read it.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com