tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post2957760967343229275..comments2024-03-28T17:53:43.541-04:00Comments on DarwinCatholic: Becoming Truly LiterateDarwinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08572976822786862149noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-28113649901703831162017-02-15T07:17:42.670-05:002017-02-15T07:17:42.670-05:00I'm afraid I have to agree with mandamum - the...I'm afraid I have to agree with mandamum - the text does suggest that the garments are for Dominicans. They say they wanted to make garments that would change the fact that the Domincans now stand out in their habit, contrary to the original intention. The clothes "create their unique Dominican form language", the garments are described as "an updated unisex version of the friar's habit". The don't say it explicitly, and even mention "followers" but followers who wear the habit are actually friars and nuns, not sympathizers. Whether the garments become an updated version for habit depends on the Dominicans, of course, and whether they intend to decide so is not mentioned, but the possibility is implied. Agnesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-4525907350477817532017-01-30T13:00:33.142-05:002017-01-30T13:00:33.142-05:00Three thing: You really think Trump is making publ...Three thing: You really think Trump is making public discourse worse? Than it already was? He's loathsome, sure - but worse than what we've seen for the last 8 (or 16, or 24) years? I don't think so. If anything, he's only making apparent how bad it had already gotten in that the hair-trigger hysteria of his opponents reveals how little thought was going on. <br /><br />2nd, Brandon's comment (with which I heartily agree) reminded of a comment attributed to St. Louis of France by Chesterton: there are only two ways to deal with barbarians - reason with them, or run them through with the sword. If you can't talk things over in a reasonable way, all that's left is violence. Unfortunately, having a saint to wield that violence is rare. <br /><br />3rd, just wrote a note about Paulo Freire's "Pedagogy of the Oppressed" and how it is assigned reading in education schools around the country - assigned to young people who have been ill-prepared to deal with attractive claptrap. That's the difference between the goals of a classical education - to prepare a student to think for himself, and mere training, which is what sheep get. Joseph Moorehttps://yardsaleofthemind.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-87469592004178993582017-01-27T01:04:20.909-05:002017-01-27T01:04:20.909-05:00Actually, to be fair to the mis-readers, I think t...Actually, to be fair to the mis-readers, I think their confusion is reasonable. The designer is collaborating with the Dominicans, "to create an updated unisex version of the friar's habit." And after noting, "'When the Dominicans walked the streets, they wanted to be normal not drawing attention to themselves,'... 'Ironically, this is how they get noticed nowadays.'" he says, " 'We wanted to go back to the essence of the piece of clothing: showing that you are one with the people around you.' " <br /><br />If you hadn't told me otherwise, I would have read it to be an updated habit FOR (at least some) Dominicans, rather than a collection only INSPIREd by the habit. And having read it forwarned, I still don't see it in the text. <br /><br />BUT I run into this all the time on the web (and in my home).mandamumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13456664219186606851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-23819907242814824772017-01-26T18:15:16.436-05:002017-01-26T18:15:16.436-05:00This slight of hand then puts reasoned discourse o...<i>This slight of hand then puts reasoned discourse on an assumed pedestal.</i><br /><br />'Politics' is literally just the Greek-derived word for 'what structurally organizes people into civilization', so if you are going to make this argument, you will need to be more precise about what you mean. Also, the actual flow of thought is the opposite direction of what you are claiming; that reasoned discourse is the structure of functional civilization is one of the three distinct reasons given for the most basic form of politics being reasoned discourse, not vice versa.<br /><br />Like MrsD, I'm not sure what you have in mind in suggesting that we can have civilization without structuring it through rational discourse. Reasoned discourse is not being put 'on a pedestal' here; it's as if you claimed that saying breathing was necessary for life was putting breathing on a pedestal. It doesn't matter whether it is on a pedestal or not; it's a requirement for a just and coherent society and treating it as such is the only way to avoid having a political view that makes society a matter of force and violence.Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06698839146562734910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-47540759573795332302017-01-26T17:14:41.509-05:002017-01-26T17:14:41.509-05:00I'm not sure I follow you. Isn't politics ...I'm not sure I follow you. Isn't politics the art of dealing with the polis, the people and the groups they form? Brandon speaks of the necessity of having a political view that puts reasoned discourse at the heart of civilization. If we cannot have reasoned discourse at the heart of our attempts to organize people into the best way to live -- if we can't even agree on ideas or discourse in the same language, if we can't even agree on what is good -- what else is the right way to maintain civilization? <br />mrsdarwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03446744635277205867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-49616451453841550562017-01-26T16:02:47.858-05:002017-01-26T16:02:47.858-05:00Brandon Watson puts politics at the heart of civil...Brandon Watson puts politics at the heart of civilization. That ironic logical leap occurs in the first paragraph. This slight of hand then puts reasoned discourse on an assumed pedestal.<br /><br />It suggests that the remainder of his statement requires cautious reexamination. BenKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16784998250207335412noreply@blogger.com