tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post4609103575817695107..comments2024-03-28T17:53:43.541-04:00Comments on DarwinCatholic: Bragging RightsDarwinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08572976822786862149noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-39520514796899848892007-10-22T10:30:00.000-04:002007-10-22T10:30:00.000-04:00While I would certainly not go so far as to say th...<I>While I would certainly not go so far as to say that a conservative must (to the extent he's conservative) be against all government-run charity -- I would say that the conservative position would generally strongly emphasize family, church and local charity work over large government programs.</I><BR/><BR/>I would tend to agree with this. Where the line tends to get blurred, in my opinion, is private association. A liberterian will tend to place a private association at the indiviual or family level. Conservatives tend to place the private association at the local government level.<BR/><BR/>I do agree that poverty programs should generally be avoided by government. As far as the provision of medical care, trading a private association for a public association isn't going to keep me up at night. Of course there is a lot to argue in regards to how one directs a public system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-13732366382295717602007-10-21T12:12:00.000-04:002007-10-21T12:12:00.000-04:00But it's even easiest to dismiss the charity of fo...But it's even easiest to dismiss the charity of folks like Mother Teresa by calling her a bitch (re: Christopher Hitchens)The Pigeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08555880575302571082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-7191558188522034532007-10-20T00:43:00.000-04:002007-10-20T00:43:00.000-04:00while it's considered polite to talk up the legisl...<I>while it's considered polite to talk up the legislation you support, it's not considered polite to brag about recent charitable donations you have made</I><BR/><BR/>This is a very good point, and one that I'd never thought about before. It's akin to a "PR" problem with social conservatism/religion in general: it's perfectly acceptable for an anti-theist to criticize religion for all its supposed faults (Inquisitions, sex abuse scandals, the usual suspects), but somehow it's not okay for the religious person to point out all the daily, tiny works of mercy that take place within families, parishes, communities, etc., because of their religious convictions. That would be like bragging, and anyway, the sinful stuff is flashier. Burning people at the stake makes better copy than decorating the altar for the 19th funeral this year...<BR/><BR/>Sometimes you can't win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-1106638351473346272007-10-19T16:40:00.000-04:002007-10-19T16:40:00.000-04:00MZ,I think you're doubtless correct that a number ...MZ,<BR/><BR/>I think you're doubtless correct that a number of libertarians have received more help from others than their self-proclaimed individualism admits.<BR/><BR/>I don't think I'm talking about a particularly libertarian point of view here, however. It seems like a truly libertarian position takes a "survival of the fittest" approach to charity in general.<BR/><BR/>While I would certainly not go so far as to say that a conservative must (to the extent he's conservative) be against all government-run charity -- I would say that the conservative position would generally strongly emphasize family, church and local charity work over large government programs.Darwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08572976822786862149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-76464575179338620082007-10-19T15:18:00.000-04:002007-10-19T15:18:00.000-04:00There are plenty who sing "I did it my way" that d...There are plenty who sing "I did it my way" that depended on societal structures to get where they are. I can only speak for myself when I say such individualistic sentiments are not based in conservatism. They are based in liberterianism. This is not to say that liberterians and conservatives can't come to agreement. I think it should just be acknowledged from where this thinking comes. That so many self-proclaimed conservatives claim this to be conservative thought is a reflection of one of the bad consequences of fusionism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-18410402994116563262007-10-19T14:47:00.000-04:002007-10-19T14:47:00.000-04:00Well-said, DarwinCatholic!Well-said, DarwinCatholic!Sardonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09614057543947120116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-78374371846280977492007-10-19T14:15:00.000-04:002007-10-19T14:15:00.000-04:00The Blackadder Says: Excellent point.The Blackadder Says: <BR/><BR/>Excellent point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-45315535005927365182007-10-19T13:03:00.000-04:002007-10-19T13:03:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Pro Ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03814831624547392519noreply@blogger.com