tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post7265514617055900482..comments2024-03-14T11:50:14.761-04:00Comments on DarwinCatholic: A Frank Breech of TrustDarwinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08572976822786862149noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-47274397723661913752008-08-21T01:33:00.000-04:002008-08-21T01:33:00.000-04:00We're praying for you! My old Chiropractor I thin...We're praying for you! My old Chiropractor I think is still there in Round Rock (Steven and Susan I think still use her) I remember her being very pro-natural birth and midwife. She may be able to help. God Bless and keep us posted.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03974418447734519881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-2593270461049878672008-08-20T15:16:00.000-04:002008-08-20T15:16:00.000-04:00Alas! My moxibustion is tomorrow afternoon, and I...Alas! My moxibustion is tomorrow afternoon, and I haven't found a chiropractor yet! As to the breech tilt, it certainly hasn't produced anything yet except wiggles from baby and a sore neck. <BR/><BR/>I would absolutely have a breech labor at home, but the midwife seems very unwilling to try it. I guess if I went into labor early she'd come, since a) baby seems small, and b) I don't have a doctor or a hospital lined up at this point. <BR/><BR/>Darwin and I did have a great talk about the economics of modern medicine and interventions after my doctor's appointment on Monday (look for the post soon) but baby must not care much for economics because he has remained unbudged. He kicks a lot, though. That's good.<BR/><BR/>I really appreciate all the advice and prayers, guys!mrsdarwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03446744635277205867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-48960075219769355642008-08-20T14:49:00.000-04:002008-08-20T14:49:00.000-04:00I spoke with a friend of mine who is an experienc...I spoke with a friend of mine who is an experienced doula and has worked with many homebirth midwives.<BR/><BR/>She said the breech tilt doesn’t seem to work very well for most people, so you may not want to bother with that.<BR/><BR/>She strongly recommended that you have the chiropractic Webster technique once, or better twice, before any other interventions, as it serves to loosen things up and make it easier for the baby to move. It worked for me with my third.<BR/><BR/>Moxibustion is more effective after the Webster technique than on its own. (I’ve had moxibustion for other things; I found it relaxing.)<BR/><BR/>She said many experienced midwives can also help turn babies, so ask around.<BR/><BR/>Another thing she suggested was a good heart-to-heart talk with your husband. (This will probably require a babysitter.) She used to think this was just a midwives’ tale, but has seen it make a difference enough times to think there is something to it. If there is anything that may be causing tension between you, talking it out may help you relax enough to encourage the youngster to move around. (This is purely hypothetical; I don't mean to make unwarranted assumptions.)<BR/><BR/>According to the best evidence-based studies (and she knows all of them), she says that you’re still safer doing a home birth with a breech baby than doing it in a hospital; OBs call it “breech extraction” for a reason. OBs often trade in fear in order to get people to submit to (unnecessary) C sections, so proceed with caution there.<BR/><BR/>I had an external version with my first; it wasn't bad. On the other hand, if you're at 42 weeks with a 12-pound baby, don't try it. If you go that route, try to get the most experienced doc you can.<BR/><BR/>We will, certainly, continue to pray for the best outcome possible for all of you.the other Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13553019641664661416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-27091396797375525552008-08-20T13:42:00.000-04:002008-08-20T13:42:00.000-04:00bwah- just for some optimism here: I had an (ultim...bwah- just for some optimism here: I had an (ultimately unsuccessful) version which didn't hurt any worse than a good Swedish masage. I wouldn't choose it for an afternoon's recreation, but I was able to come home and go berry picking that evening.<BR/><BR/>I've had 4 C-sections since, for various reasons, and while Ihave no vaginal births to compare them to, they were decidedly *not* very painful (certainly far less painful than the contractions themselves) and recovery time was minimal. The post-anesthesia nausea was the worst part. <BR/><BR/>Many prayers that the little one turns around and all are healthy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-43842120196681839362008-08-19T12:18:00.000-04:002008-08-19T12:18:00.000-04:00Oh no! My second went breech at about 34 weeks an...Oh no! <BR/><BR/>My second went breech at about 34 weeks and stayed there until almost 37 weeks. I was doing the breech tilt too and I remember thinking that while it wasn't fun, it was definitely better than a c-section. We were going to talk about more invasive measures at my 37 week appointment, but he turned the night or so before. <BR/><BR/>I'll be praying for you!Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12689104216675201913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-68300132637622049222008-08-19T09:08:00.000-04:002008-08-19T09:08:00.000-04:00Prayers. I've had 3 c-sections, and let me tell yo...Prayers. I've had 3 c-sections, and let me tell you they don't get easier. I'd stand upside-down in a pool for a week if I thought it would have avoided a c-section.<BR/><BR/>That said, they give you morphine right after, which is wonderful stuff. I would have been a junkie for sure if I'd ever been given the chance.The Opinionated Homeschoolerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07998448933609444830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-82027916761579232982008-08-19T08:05:00.000-04:002008-08-19T08:05:00.000-04:00This happened to me with my fourth. He flip-flopp...This happened to me with my fourth. He flip-flopped all over the place until 38 weeks and then he decided to go bottoms up. I tried all the positions, etc, but I finally had to convince my doctor to schedule a version. It was hard because she needed another doctor who would be willing to help her turn the baby and no one wanted that job.<BR/><BR/>I'll pray that you little one decides to turn around and mosey out the "easy" way :)Aimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16332125903937752882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-30685317151749081572008-08-19T04:35:00.000-04:002008-08-19T04:35:00.000-04:00We're praying, but tell that little guy to get wit...We're praying, but tell that little guy to get with the program!Catholic Bibliophagisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10697706672495544901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-63721064825755951622008-08-18T23:35:00.000-04:002008-08-18T23:35:00.000-04:00Thanks for your prayers!I do plan to get in the po...Thanks for your prayers!<BR/><BR/>I do plan to get in the pool, but I'm wary of our (postage stamp-sized) HOA pool because I'm not sure how often it's clean...<BR/><BR/>Shannon, thanks for the advice. My midwife also told me today that a chiropractor will certainly see me without an x-ray, so perhaps that's just the policy of the certain guy a friend referred me to. My mom (a massage therapist) suggested I schedule a massage with a pregnancy specialist, who could use the Webster technique and pressure points to trigger some good uterine reactions. The doctor I saw today said that an acupuncture technique called moxibustion often seems to help breech babies turn, so I'm going to see if I can try that this week.mrsdarwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03446744635277205867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-36392279618552273082008-08-18T23:24:00.000-04:002008-08-18T23:24:00.000-04:00May God's will be done! If it's in the ba...May God's will be done! If it's in the baby's best interest, may he flip on his own, and if not ... well. (My sister's second daughter was breech and I was busy praying that the baby would turn when suddenly I felt very compelled to pray, instead, for the baby to be healthy. Turns out that no one, including the doctors and nurses who did multiple ultrasounds (my sister works in L&D at a women's hospital and got a few free ones) noticed that the cord was around the baby's neck! <BR/><BR/>So may the good Lord protect you and your son and guide the physicians and midwife to do what is best for your whole family! <BR/><BR/>[PS: Hope I didn't just distress you. That is most certainly not my intention, because the moral is that God will often take care of us and do what's best in spite of our prayers. ;) ]Christine the Soccer Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01270550419011368834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-70663514022856549462008-08-18T21:59:00.000-04:002008-08-18T21:59:00.000-04:00I am not sure what area you are in, so I can't spe...I am not sure what area you are in, so I can't speak to whether or not a chiropractor will see you in particular without an x-ray because yeah, it is kind of contraindicated in pregancy. ;) However, I saw a chiropractor in my second pregnancy when my pelvis was so loose that I was walking with a severe limp. No x-rays were done ever. That was in Chicago. I am pretty sure they would go ahead and see you without an x-ray and I would definitely give it a shot! The chiropractic technique that is specifically mentioned in attempts to turn breech babies is the Webster technique, but chiropractic care in general is awesome for moms and babies and can possibly lead to a shorter labor as well. A great website to find a doctor who may be Webster-certified in or near your area is www.icpa4kids.org. Good luck on your strategies and I hope your babe is responsive!!!<BR/><BR/>One last note, I teach Bradley Method classes and recently had a student whose breech baby turned after she had gone for a good, long swim at the local pool so don't rule out that method either!<BR/><BR/>ShannonShannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02122556302425513683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-69473040455253757242008-08-18T18:50:00.000-04:002008-08-18T18:50:00.000-04:00A friend of mine did handstands in the pool to tur...A friend of mine did handstands in the pool to turn her breech--but I bet she had to put up with a lot of staring!<BR/><BR/>Lately I seem to be in baby prayer mode, so I'll add my voice.CMinorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07305306030099439903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-63668244196832523372008-08-18T17:33:00.000-04:002008-08-18T17:33:00.000-04:00I'm fairly certain that a good combination of pray...I'm fairly certain that a good combination of prayer and swimming turned our baby around when my wife was pregnant last. A good long stroke like a breast stroke was what she used based on a recommendation from a nurse, and my wife said it really had the baby wriggling - though we never thought the baby turned until the doctor did an ultrasound just before the narrowly escaped C-Section.AnotherCowardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08005946830520655463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-3887707172860344992008-08-18T16:56:00.000-04:002008-08-18T16:56:00.000-04:00The other reason the medics don't like breech birt...The other reason the medics don't like breech births is that the bones in the head don't come together so gradually in labour. Then sudden big contractions onto the head can cause damage to the brain. I only know this as it happened to a friend's baby. <BR/><BR/>Here's hoping you do manage to get a natural flip before baby decides to arrive!!Kiwi Nomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13351034705766073667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-9106343310449959862008-08-18T14:31:00.000-04:002008-08-18T14:31:00.000-04:00Praying things turn around for you!Praying things turn around for you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-77409306536793271242008-08-18T14:16:00.000-04:002008-08-18T14:16:00.000-04:00I'm saying a prayer that your little guy decides t...I'm saying a prayer that your little guy decides to turn on his own. I've known several people who have had that happen.Barbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13251313190301798845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-12963470256846146522008-08-18T13:58:00.000-04:002008-08-18T13:58:00.000-04:00My sister-in-law had a version. She said it wasn't...My sister-in-law had a version. She said it wasn't fun; but, yeah, better than a c-section. I, of course, had to have a c-section because they didn't discover Bella was breech until after my water had broken and I'd been in labor for 8 hours. So at least you've got advance warning.<BR/><BR/>Saying lots of prayers that your little one will decide to turn on his own.Melanie Bettinellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12557248434888642114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13522238.post-59010008824852256092008-08-18T13:06:00.000-04:002008-08-18T13:06:00.000-04:00Yikes! We'll be praying! And , hey, if you need to...Yikes! We'll be praying! And , hey, if you need to hang upside down at your baby shower this weekend, that is a-ok. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com