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Tuesday, April 22, 2008

Carter: Peace In Our Time

Former President Jimmy Carter has been working hard to get a peace process going between Hamas (which controls the Gaza Strip between Israel and Egypt) and Israel, under the supervision of the United States -- this despite the fact that both Israel and the US have ordered him to have nothing to do with the terrorist organization.

However, yesterday President Carter announced that he had achieved significant progress:
The former US president Jimmy Carter today said Hamas was prepared to accept Israel's right to "live as a neighbour next door in peace".

Carter was speaking after meeting Khaled Meshal, an influential leader within the militant organisation, in Damascus last week.

The former president insisted Hamas would not undermine efforts by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, to reach a peace deal with Israel.

Hamas believed any peace agreement negotiated by Abbas would have to be submitted to the Palestinian people in a referendum, he added.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas apparently disagrees.
Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter failed in his attempt to talk Hamas into accepting a future two-state peace deal with Israel, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said on Tuesday.

Carter said after private meetings with Hamas leaders in Egypt and Syria last week that the Islamist group, which is shunned by Israel, Abbas and the West, would accept a peace deal signed by the Palestinian president if it passed a referendum.

But Hamas said it would continue to reject the Jewish state's right to exist and turned down a proposal by Carter -- whose mission was disavowed by the Israeli and U.S. governments -- to halt rocket fire from the Gaza Strip unilaterally.

"Carter gave them (Hamas) the right advice," Abbas told reporters in Iceland, where he made a stopover en route to talks with U.S. President George W. Bush in the United States.

"He urged Hamas to accept a two-state solution and accept past Palestinian agreements with Israel, but unfortunately he failed to convince them and his visit did not end up with positive results."
And in case you wanted to hear it straight from the horses ass mouth the Guardian fills us in:
However, Sami Abu Zuhri, a Hamas spokesman, later said Carter's comments "do not mean that Hamas is going to accept the result of the referendum".
All this makes you wonder what the negotiations actually sounded like. We asked our staff of skilled humor writers to provide a sample:

Carter: Let's talk concessions and quid pro quo. What would Hamas be willing to offer in return for an Israeli promise to end all cross-border incursions into Gaza?

Meshal: We would wipe Israel off the face of the earth, driving them into the sea, and killing every man, woman and child of the Jewish pigs.

Carter: Well, that sounds like a good starting point for our discussion. Clearly, economic concessions are also important. If the US were to promise one billion in aid annually to the Hamas government in Gaza, what further concessions could you consider?

Meshal: In that case, perhaps we would wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

Carter: That's better, right?

Meshal: Yes. Much better. We would drive them into the sea and kill every man, woman and child.

Carter: I'm sensing that this killing every man, woman and child point would cause some international controversy. Could we examine a compromise on that point?

Meshal: We would be happy to kill only the men.

Carter: That is exactly the sort of give and take we need.

Meshal: Of course, afterwards, we would like to kill the women and children too.

Carter: But you'd be willing to stick to just the men as a preliminary settlement? That's definitely progress. We'll come back to this. Can we discuss disarmament?

Meshal: We are fully in support of Israel's disarmament.

Carter: Outstanding! I think I'll call a press conference.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Blackadder Says:

Talk about dark humor. It's hilarious nonetheless.

CMinor said...

Why do I imagine Jimmy as sounding like a Georgia-accented Mr. Rogers in that bit of dialogue?

Rick Lugari said...

Haha...that's about how it would go too.

Anonymous said...

It is worth remembering that Hamas is not just a terrorist group, it is a democratically elected terrorist group. Odious as they are, it is nonetheless a fact that they speak for the people of the Gaza Strip, and the Bush Administration's flat refusal to deal with them guarantees that no progress of any kind will be made in the Middle East until we have a better president.

Carter's inability to make progress with Hamas might have something to do with their knowledge that he was not speaking for the US, a fact that the Bush Administration naturally made clear before Carter arrived. Nice work, fellas!

Darwin said...

Given that an absolute refusal to recognize Israel and a determination to wipe it off the face of the map is enshrined in Hamas' founding document, I don't think it's unrealistic to question exactly how much good negotiating with them is likely to do. I'm not against attempting it, but any sort of success in negotiation will necessarily mean an abandonment of what Hamas has historically been.

There is plenty of blame to spread around in the Middle East, and the US and Israel are certainly not without their share, but Carter's pseudo-progress is doing little to alleviate that.

Literacy-chic said...

Carter approaches his diplomacy with stupid naivete rather than the egocentric, nationalistic arrogance of Chamberlain. But yeah, the strategies and potential results are pretty much the same...

Donald R. McClarey said...

"and the Bush Administration's flat refusal to deal with them guarantees that no progress of any kind will be made in the Middle East until we have a better president."

What hogwash. Hamas can't even reach an agreement with Fatah, as the students and professors Hamas "police" beat on April Fool's Day can attest.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/01/world/middleeast/01mideast.html


Since taking power Hamas has murdered hundreds of Fatah supporters who had the misfortune to live in Gaza. Hamas has waged ceaseless war against Israel both before and after taking power in Gaza. Hamas wants to negotiate only in the sense that a jackal wishes to "negotiate" with its prey. Only a true nitwit like the Peanut Farmer would think that there was anything to be gained by talking with this gang of murderers.