The common wisdom is that this kind of thing turns undecided voters off. I saw some anecdotal evidence of this in the reactions of my less partisan friends on Facebook, one of whom posted in indignation:
Dear Gov Romney and Pres Obama,This aside, though, I think the focus on rhetorical dominance and aggression has probably been misplaced. Was it really that Obama's performance in the first debate was so sluggish that cost him so much in the polls? I don't think most Americans care whether the president is a skilled debater or not.
Every time you keep talking when you are reminded that a normal citizen has a question for you, you reinforce that you think what you have to say is more important than the concerns of the people of your country. You both lost my vote tonight.
I think a lot of it is that in the first debate it became clear (and this second debate didn't change that) that Obama doesn't really have a second term agenda other than "ROMNEY IS SCARY!!" and "don't change horses in mid stream", while Romney laid out an apparently simple plan for improving the economy. (In some places I think it goes from simple to simplistic, but leave that aside for now.)
If that's correct, anything that gets the real Romney up on stage rather than the Obama Campaign straw man version potentially helps Romney with that small group of voters who don't already have a strong preference, and the "be more aggressive and call him a liar" advice that Obama has taken so much to heart really kind of misses the point. The problem for the President is that he's mostly run against a phantom Romney of his own creation, and due to the disappointments of his first term, he's done this almost entirely in place of actually running on a clear agenda. Not only is this somewhat disappointing for voters, but it is in utterly stark contrast with Obama's first campaign, which was definitely long on "vision" and promised all sorts of sweeping changes that would make America better.
If it's the "vision thing" which is really at issue, and not debating vigor, I don't think we'll see this more aggressive performance by Obama helping him much in the polls.
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Yeah, I don't think people care about 'is this guy a skilled debater?' whatsoever - it's more about how they come across personally and intellectually, and the assumption is that debating skill is what helps achieve that. In Romney's case, that may not be entirely true - as you said, Obama's campaign has largely been 'Romney is scary!', so when Romney shows up and seems to be something other than a frightening cash-eating ogre, hey. Points to Romney.
I actually thought the analysis of the first debate was partly spin-for-Obama for that reason. The mantra I heard was 'Obama wasn't a good debater, he wasn't aggressive enough!' - not, "Obama was put in a situation where he had to rely on his record, and oops, his record is actually rather poor", which I thought would be more on target. Instead, if Obama loses, it's because of style. If Romney does poorly, it's because of substance.
Your analysis seems to track with the post-debate evaluations. So far it seems like a weird situation where people think Obama narrowly won the debate... but on issues like the Economy, etc, Romney scored vastly higher. So I wonder if the result is going to be, 'Yeah, Obama was the better debater, measured in terms of landing rhetorical blows. Romney merely won on 'reasons to actually vote for him'.'
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